Episode 196: In the Presence of Manta Rays with Martina Wing

Being in the presence of a manta ray, I think that is what I experienced back then. Awe and wonder.
— Martina Wing

This week on Inspire Campfire, Scott welcomes Martina Wing, founder of Manta Ray Advocates in Kona, Hawaii. Originally from Germany, Martina came to Hawaii during a difficult season of grief after losing her first husband to leukemia. What began as a trip for healing became the start of an entirely new life, shaped by the ocean, manta rays, and one unforgettable night dive.

During that dive, Martina encountered manta rays for the first time and experienced something she could not fully explain at the time: awe, wonder, and a sense that life still had more ahead. That moment eventually led her to move to Hawaii, marry the man who filmed her first manta ray experience, and build a purpose-driven business centered on education, conservation, and responsible manta ray encounters.

In this conversation, Martina shares how Manta Ray Advocates creates small-group, ethical night snorkeling experiences, why manta rays are often misunderstood, and how years of close observation have helped her build a deep knowledge of individual animals. She also opens up about grief, purpose, entrepreneurship, her viral dolphin rescue video, and the quiet power of being in the presence of the natural world.

Scott and Martina also discuss:

  • 00:00 Night Manta Magic

  • 01:10 Why Kona Feels Special

  • 02:31 From Germany to Hawaii

  • 03:19 What Manta Ray Advocates Does

  • 03:59 Origin Story and Industry Boom

  • 05:15 From VHS to Marriage

  • 06:47 Pivot to Advocacy Tours

  • 09:41 Beach Entry Tour Basics

  • 12:12 Lights Plankton and Feeding

  • 14:28 Ethical Wild Encounters

  • 16:31 Grief and the First Dive

  • 19:39 Underwater Campfire Awe

  • 21:32 Awe and Wonder Explained

  • 24:28 Host Reflects on Awe

  • 25:19 Manta Ray Anatomy

  • 26:02 Spot Patterns and Names

  • 28:04 Reef vs Oceanic Giants

  • 28:59 Consciousness and Conditioning

  • 30:17 Guiding Night Snorkelers

  • 32:32 Building the Business

  • 37:05 Purpose Through Grief

  • 38:46 Advice for Dream Chasers

  • 40:53 Engineering to Ocean Life

  • 41:47 Viral Dolphin Rescue

  • 47:47 Manta Meditation Project

  • 48:59 Where to Find Martina

  • 50:11 Movie Pitch and Farewell

You can learn more about Martina by following her on Instagram and Facebook. Also, check out her website, podcast, Manta Ray Meditations, and the viral Dolphin Rescue Video.

See below for photos Martina shared from her travels and life...

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